{"id":1662,"date":"2009-01-22T19:29:17","date_gmt":"2009-01-22T19:29:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/etherwave.wordpress.com\/?p=1662"},"modified":"2009-01-22T19:29:17","modified_gmt":"2009-01-22T19:29:17","slug":"het-and-science-studies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rational-action.com\/etherwave\/2009\/01\/22\/het-and-science-studies\/","title":{"rendered":"HET and Science Studies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/journals.cambridge.org\/action\/displayIssue?jid=HET&amp;volumeId=30&amp;issueId=01&amp;iid=1855868#\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/journals.cambridge.org\/cover_images\/HET\/HET30_01.jpg?resize=180%2C262\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"262\" \/><\/a>This post has a couple of motivations.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been following with interest the conversations over at the History of Economics Playground about the relationship between the History of Economic Thought (HET) and the science studies disciplines (<a href=\"http:\/\/historyofeconomics.wordpress.com\/2008\/07\/04\/why-do-historians-of-economics-hate-social-studies-of-science\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">see here for instance<\/a>).\u00a0 I&#8217;m particularly struck by the facts that many in the HET camp view the historical analysis of the impact of context as a distraction, and that eminent economists frequently show up to scold the rogues.\u00a0 This contrasts to the history of other scientific professions falling under the HSS umbrella, where intellectual interaction between historians and scientists is pretty much at a low ebb.<\/p>\n<p>The second motivation is that I&#8217;m now pushing toward completion of my book manuscript on operations research and associated &#8220;policy sciences&#8221;.\u00a0 While sweeping up my chapter on the rise of OR and decision theory, I wanted to make sure there wasn&#8217;t anything pressing on Kenneth Arrow, <!--more-->Tjalling Koopmans, Luce &amp; Raiffa, or any other pertinent characters that I should be including.\u00a0 While trolling around the tables of contents of that literature, I came across a piece printed in the <em>Journal of the History of Economic Thought<\/em> in March &#8217;08 <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.cambridge.org\/action\/displayIssue?jid=HET&amp;volumeId=30&amp;issueId=01&amp;iid=1855868#\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">by Ivan Moscati entitled &#8220;More Economics, Please: We&#8217;re Historians of Economics&#8221;<\/a> (pdf).<a href=\"http:\/\/journals.cambridge.org\/action\/displayIssue?jid=HET&amp;volumeId=30&amp;issueId=01&amp;iid=1855868#\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Moscati cast a jaundiced eye on the creeping influence of science studies on that discipline, as pushed by such scholars as Phil Mirowski, Roy Weintraub, and Wade Hands (and I&#8217;d add Mary Morgan).\u00a0 I sympathized, because his main concern seemed to be that science studies sucks the internalist content clean out of histories.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a fair concern.\u00a0 Science studies, in its bid to reconnect science with its cultural context, has tracked political, religious, and linguistic influences (like metaphors); and it has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corporeality.net\/museion\/2008\/12\/20\/reinventing-the-wheel-emotions-in-science\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">apparently &#8220;rediscovered&#8221;<\/a> the emotive qualities of science again and again.\u00a0 Sometimes it seems like we have done everything <em>except <\/em>explain the intellectual appeal of historical arguments against the background of <em>other<\/em> arguments, which, one might argue, carried some weight with the actors (crazy, I know).<\/p>\n<p>Moscati argues that in economics the real action <em>really does occur <\/em>in the published papers.\u00a0 Again, I sympathize.\u00a0 What we might call the &#8220;archival revelation&#8221; in science studies&#8212;the shock that a lot of action in science goes on behind the scenes in ways not in accord with the scrubbed up, philosophically-approved version appearing in papers&#8212;has created a certain reticence to pay much attention to the content of papers at all (beyond describing them in a very matter-of-fact way).\u00a0 Would it be fair to say that historians of science have a reflexive aversion to even well-contextualized internalist arguments?\u00a0 I can certainly think of good recent work with internalist aspects that has been well-recognized (Dave Kaiser&#8217;s Pfizer Prize-winning <em>Drawing Theories Apart <\/em>on Feynman diagrams, for example, is a must-read), but it isn&#8217;t exactly showcased by the profession in its journals.<\/p>\n<p><em><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The aversion to internalist history demonstrated in the science studies historiography apparently makes science studies, full stop, radioactive to historians of economics like Moscati.\u00a0 In his view, not understanding the economics is a real threat to good history.\u00a0 This is a contrary position to the sociological insight from the 1980s, articulated especially by Latour, and informing many subsequent studies of scientific work, that it is good to approach science as a stranger.\u00a0 This sensibility is directly related to <a href=\"https:\/\/rational-action.com\/etherwave\/2009\/01\/10\/philosophy-sociology-and-history-a-pocket-history\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the anthropological\/sociological imperative to view the <em>practices<\/em> of science independent of the analyst&#8217;s opinion of the arguments<\/a>, but as I&#8217;ve pointed out, this fails to explain the persuasive power of the arguments themselves.\u00a0 Latour has tried to remedy this problem in his framework through ANT.\u00a0 Ultimately, though, to understand historical decisions, you need to know how the arguments themselves worked.<\/p>\n<p>But a key part of understanding the arguments is understanding the cultural as well as intellectual contexts that allowed those arguments to make sense to those who made, accepted, and rejected them.\u00a0 It is often the case that certain forms of argument have been regarded as unpalatable, or even incomprehensible to those with a differing cultural or intellectual perspective.\u00a0 The most significant shifts in any science almost always play out across conflicting perspectives, and I find that the science studies fields do actually have the best tools for understanding the reasons why and the ways in which perspectives can conflict.<\/p>\n<p>Moscati cites Mirowski&#8217;s &#8220;conspiracy &#8216;thick&#8217; tales&#8221; (<em>Machine Dreams<\/em>) in support of his argument that contextual histories are less &#8220;interesting and instructive&#8221; than &#8220;insightful and well-researched &#8216;thin&#8217; histories of analysis&#8221;.\u00a0 Which is crazy, in my view.\u00a0 I mean, say what you will about<em> Machine Dreams<\/em>.\u00a0 Yeah, it very nearly is a conspiracy theory, and I wouldn&#8217;t trust the book a fifth as far as I can throw it (a curse upon whoever follows Mirowski in conflating the work of AMP with OR).\u00a0 But Mirowski does spot an inordinate number of motivating problems, which extend well beyond the scale of specific economic arguments straight into the epistemological.\u00a0 These deserve to be recognized, and it&#8217;s why I really am a fan of the book.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, it doesn&#8217;t make sense to separate &#8220;thin&#8221; and &#8220;thick&#8221; description.\u00a0 There are many examples of where thick and thin have been woven together with superb results, and I am adamantly against any insulation between the histories of science and economics.\u00a0 Nevertheless, until we on this side of the line can control the tendencies of our historiography to corrode away internalist argumentation, I do understand the desire on the other side of the line to throw us all in quarantine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This post has a couple of motivations.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been following with interest the conversations over at the History of Economics Playground about the relationship between the History of Economic Thought (HET) and the science studies disciplines (see here for instance).\u00a0 I&#8217;m particularly struck by the facts that many in the HET camp view the historical<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-right\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Continue Reading&#8230; 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